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1 The Baby

Unread postby ᎹᎦᎵ » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:04 pm

Is the following correct? Or close even?


See the baby! ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎪᏩᏔ! Baby, let you see it.

It is a little baby. ᎤᏍᏗ ᏌᏊ. It is a little one.

The baby can not walk. ᎤᏄᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎠᎢ. He fails at it. He to walk.

The baby can not talk. ᎤᏄᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎤᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. He fails at it. He to talk.

I can walk and I can talk. Ꮭ ᏱᏓᎩᏅᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎦᎢ ᎠᎴ ᎠᎩᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. I do not fail at them. I to walk. I to talk.

I can read and I can write. Ꮭ ᏱᏓᎩᏅᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎠᏆᎪᎵᏰᏗ ᎠᎴ ᎠᏉᏪᎶᏗ. I do not fail at them. I to read. I to write.
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Unread postby ᎹᎦᎵ » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:16 pm

I can only find the two references to "to fail it" in the Grammar book and it does not appear in the DF dictionary. This seems to be an important word:

I fail at it. ᎠᎩᏅᎸᎲᏍᎦ.
He fails at it. ᎤᏄᎸᎲᏍᎦ.

Other forms?

Continuous Present? -oi He always fails at it.
Past Tense? -vi He failed at it.
Imperative? Let you(one) fail at it.
"to form"? -esdi He to fail at it.
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Re: 1 The Baby

Unread postby ᎹᎦᎵ » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:05 pm

ᎹᎦᎵ wrote:Is the following correct? Or close even?


See the baby! ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎪᏩᏔ! Baby, let you see it.

It is a little baby. ᎤᏍᏗ ᏌᏊ. It is a little one.

The baby can not walk. ᎤᏄᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎠᎢ. He fails at it. He to walk.

The baby can not talk. ᎤᏄᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎤᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. He fails at it. He to talk.

I can walk and I can talk. Ꮭ ᏱᏓᎩᏅᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎦᎢ ᎠᎴ ᎠᎩᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. I do not fail at them. I to walk. I to talk.

I can read and I can write. Ꮭ ᏱᏓᎩᏅᎸᎲᏍᎦ ᎠᏆᎪᎵᏰᏗ ᎠᎴ ᎠᏉᏪᎶᏗ. I do not fail at them. I to read. I to write.


I have discovered ᎡᎵᏊ vs ᏰᎵᏊ. is the following more correct?
See the baby! ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎪᏩᏔ! Baby, let you see it.

It is a little baby. Ꮎ ᏌᏊ ᎤᏍᏗ. That one is little.

The baby can not walk. Ꮭ ᏰᎵᏊ. Ꮎ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏯᎢ. Not possible. That baby to walk.

The baby can not talk. Ꮭ ᏰᎵᏊ. Ꮎ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏳᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. Not possible. That baby to talk.

I can walk and I can talk. ᎡᎵᏊ ᎦᎢ ᎠᎴ ᎠᎩᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. Possible. I to walk and I to talk.

I can read and I can write. ᎡᎵᏊ ᎠᏆᎪᎵᏰᏗ ᎠᎴ ᎠᏉᏪᎶᏗ. Possible. I to read and I to write.
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Re: 1 The Baby

Unread postby molbolom » Thu May 10, 2012 9:17 am

ᎹᎦᎵ wrote:
I have discovered ᎡᎵᏊ vs ᏰᎵᏊ. is the following more correct?


I have been pondering those two for many years, and really haven't figured them out 100%, but I am fairly certain that ᎡᎵᏊ is "Just possibly", "only perhaps", etc and ᏰᎵᏊ is "If it is just possible", "if only possibly", "it just might be", etc.

ᏰᎵᏊ ᏳᏲᏏ. He could be hungry. (conditional)
ᎡᎵᏊ ᎥᏍᎩ ᎤᏛᏅᎢ. Maybe that's what he said.

See the baby! ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎪᏩᏔ! Baby, let you see it.

Good.

It is a little baby. Ꮎ ᏌᏊ ᎤᏍᏗ. That one is little.


Ꮎ ᎤᏍᏗ.
ᎥᏍᎩᎾ ᎤᏍᏗ.
ᎤᏍᏗ ᏥᎩ.
ᎾᏍᎩ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏥᎩ
etc...

The baby can not walk. Ꮭ ᏰᎵᏊ. Ꮎ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏯᎢ. Not possible. That baby to walk.

ᏰᎵ ᏝᏋ ᏯᎢ ᎤᏍᏗ. (Unfortunately, I can't think of anything better at the moment, but at least for me this sounds better. Maybe just not walking that baby. Another one is ᎤᏍᏗ ᏯᎢ ᏱᏂᎨᏒᏅᎢ. Though, the conditionals make it seem rather odd. So, I'd have to say that I don't really like any of the translations, and I'll say "don't trust me" here...)

The baby can not talk. Ꮭ ᏰᎵᏊ. Ꮎ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏳᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. Not possible. That baby to talk.

Erm!!! There are literally dozens, if not hundreds, of ways to say this...
I'm going to say "ᎢᎤᏪᏍᏗ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏂᎨᏒᏅᎢ".

I can walk and I can talk. ᎡᎵᏊ ᎦᎢ ᎠᎴ ᎠᎩᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ. Possible. I to walk and I to talk.

Again, many different ways to say it, and unfortunately, I can't think of a moment I'd say something like this, so I'm going to remain silent on it.

I can read and I can write. ᎡᎵᏊ ᎠᏆᎪᎵᏰᏗ ᎠᎴ ᎠᏉᏪᎶᏗ. Possible. I to read and I to write.

1. ᎠᏆ- should be ᎠᎩ- in "read".

[Lost my thinker...Erm! I'm going to say this is "ok". It seems a bit strange to me, but I can't think well enough to say yay or nay...]
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